tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post4842141437917637656..comments2023-07-29T14:44:21.646+02:00Comments on The Tester's Headache: Showing your thinking or thought-processSimon Morleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-833863526044608082010-06-27T15:15:56.619+02:002010-06-27T15:15:56.619+02:00Peter - do it! You're right, a tester's p...Peter - do it! You're right, a tester's playbook is a way of showing your workings so that other people have access to critique your test design. In my current workplace, only the test team has access to test scripts - the rest of the development team are given defect tracking-only licences. This seems to me to be failing to show our working.<br /><br />I've got one week left there, and I'm going to be recommending that we move away from lengthy detailed procedural scripts towards a tester's playbook - I won't be there to see it, but I'll make my case and hope they follow through on it. I don't know if they will, inertia is a very powerful force.Anna Baikhttp://twitter.com/TesterABnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-27469666100784042462010-06-25T10:31:05.231+02:002010-06-25T10:31:05.231+02:00Hi Sebi,
Yes, accepted challenges. But even a non...Hi Sebi,<br /><br />Yes, accepted challenges. But even a non-accepted challenge can be thought about and even answered (maybe not straightaway).<br /><br />If someone was to ask (me), "do testers have a purpose" I'd probably try to examine where they were coming from:-<br /><br />"Tell me about your thinking behind that statement."<br />"Is there a specific reason that you might consider that testers are not needed?"<br />"If so, please expand on that"<br /><br />Without that sort of background there's no real basis for discussion - it just becomes rhetoric. Applying critical thinking techniques I could also ask:<br /><br />"Show me the propositions that lead you to this potential conclusion"<br /><br />Then I'd examine each of the propositions, and on, and on... If the questioner wanted to engage in debate then I'd continue, otherwise - like you say, I'd have the right to not accept the challenge - that's always an option, of course.<br /><br />Thanks for the comment!Simon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-8994134031191848752010-06-25T10:17:45.339+02:002010-06-25T10:17:45.339+02:00Peter,
Thanks!
If you get a chance to take the ...Peter,<br /><br />Thanks! <br /><br />If you get a chance to take the RST course then I'd jump at it - it is a "thinking course for testers", or maybe a "testing course for thinking testers".<br /><br />I'd look forward to reading your testers playbook if you get the chance to do it. I think we are both on the same "out of the box thread" sometimes! :-)Simon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-15007219588913311032010-06-25T09:34:40.244+02:002010-06-25T09:34:40.244+02:00Hi Simon,
Its a nice post about challenging. I...Hi Simon,<br /> Its a nice post about challenging. I guess you are referring to accepted challenges. <br /> Because I think of some (not sure if I should call the same)of them, like for example "Do testers have a purpose" or other similar I get angry sometimes (even if not asked as direct question) :)<br /><br />Sebi<br />www.testalways.comEusebiu Blinduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11360614259223474001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-13719483072788585392010-06-25T08:11:38.559+02:002010-06-25T08:11:38.559+02:00Hi Simon,
Good Post! I have been 'thinking...Hi Simon,<br /><br />Good Post! I have been 'thinking' about the importance of mulling for a while now. I mean I think I mull quite a bit, regurgitate my thinking to make it better. It's not always the best thing to do, and I'm trying to find a quicker/'better' way to 'mull'. Would that be a good thing? Is that the basis for Bach/Bolton's Rapid Test Course? Perhaps I should try and do that?<br /><br />I have been meaning to post my version of a 'testers playbook' again for a while now, where I think I try and 'Write down' my working...<br /><br />I really would like more videos of testers taking challenges and perhaps being challenged I think this would help me and others a lot<br /><br />Can I draw a picture of myself with a bubble coming out of my head to show I'm working..hehe<br /><br />Peter007unlicensedtotesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12655649686389903760noreply@blogger.com