tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post5139468319233460844..comments2023-07-29T14:44:21.646+02:00Comments on The Tester's Headache: So, you're a tester? What's that?Simon Morleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-25533123861553631502010-01-28T16:44:41.447+01:002010-01-28T16:44:41.447+01:00Spot on Devon!
Asking incisive questions is a grea...Spot on Devon!<br />Asking incisive questions is a great asset to the organisation.Simon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-48170221821682270822010-01-28T16:39:58.093+01:002010-01-28T16:39:58.093+01:00Its true that testers can add a lot of value befor...Its true that testers can add a lot of value before testing even begins. Ambiguity review on documents, pestering questions that uncover something no one has thought of yet, and a different approach to software (user perspective, quality perspective) make QAs very useful throughout the whole development cycle.Devonhttp://ladybug010.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-20121182138263356252010-01-27T23:27:22.017+01:002010-01-27T23:27:22.017+01:00Hi Peter,
Yes, agree that testers do more than te...Hi Peter,<br /><br />Yes, agree that testers do more than testing. <br /><br />Some of their best work is non-test execution - it's the investigation beforehand and afterwards as well as the reporting that is so valuable and makes them such an asset in the team.<br /><br />This side is underrated - or not enough PR until now - so it needs testers to step forward and tell the story - and writing for a magazine like the upcoming STC mag is perfect practice!<br /><br /><i>(How's that for a segway?)</i><br /><br />Cheers,<br />SSimon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-24594559115588963422010-01-27T22:49:43.524+01:002010-01-27T22:49:43.524+01:00Simon,
How about bridge gaps?, build relatio...Simon,<br /> How about bridge gaps?, build relationships? <br />Can we agree that testers do more than testing?...<br /><br />Queue the drum roll (dum, dum, tssh)...<br />and if by magic watch out for the first issue of the STC magazine sounds like it's going to be a cracker!.<br /><br />Peter007unlicensedtotesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12655649686389903760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-8538888124060259722010-01-27T15:53:41.473+01:002010-01-27T15:53:41.473+01:00The issue with role of the tester is very much a c...The issue with role of the tester is very much a case-by-case basis. What it means to one tester in one part of an org doesn't necessarilly mean the same to another tester in a different org in the same company.<br /><br />Some testers are closer than others to the "real" customers - everytime a layer comes in-between means there is another potential layer about what the results/findings mean to the report receiver, that can be different from the end receiver...<br /><br />But I think it's fairly safe to say that all testers contribute on the value of their feedback and ways in which it is presented.<br /><br />I think evaluating whether a customer's problem is solved to their expectation is a different ball-game. In principle, it boils down to the same necessity for cooperation and negotiation - "our findings are x, y & z. We think that fulfils your requirements and we can also report that performance and useability findings are a, b, & c. Issues to note/discuss are j, k & l... Let's discuss."Simon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5948141587422980338.post-25479417574183601482010-01-27T14:04:52.601+01:002010-01-27T14:04:52.601+01:00I think you will like some of the writings I did r...I think you will like some of the writings I did recently. In the first issue of the STC magazine there will be an article on testers in the gatekepper or quality police role that should aid here.<br /><br />Second I'm currently working on a tester's fable, which I don't know yet what to do with. The first episode took quite some time to develop, and is about 2000 words in size now, which feels a bit long.<br /><br />Your downbeat paragraph reminded me on my picture on testers:<br />Software Development is problem-solving in the sense that the customer knows where he's at now, thinks he knows where he wants to be, and has the problem just between this two positions, which the software shall solve. When the software is finished, the customer has the problem, that he does not know if the software really solves his problems and if not to which degree. This is where testers come into play. "Testers are the headlights" as mentioned in one of the former lessons in Lessons Learned about Software Testing. We light the way, but we also provide the information necessary to find out if the software really solves the problems of our users.Markus Gärtnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15728306418553053255noreply@blogger.com